Van: "Integral World" Aan: Onderwerp: Replies to Perez Datum: zaterdag 20 december 2014 12:04 INTEGRAL WORLD MAILING LIST =========================== http://www.integralworld.net Newsletter Nr. 538 Amsterdam, December 20th, 2014 PROUD TO BE ORANGE - A Response to Joe Perez - FRANK VISSER A brief recap is in order, since Joe Perez posted his comments on me on his newly launched Integral Blog. These comments dealt with the new chapter of Ken Wilber: Thought as Passion which I had posted on Integral World, and an earlier interview with me for a German magazine in which I expressed my disappointments with the integral movement. My general conclusion in this chapter was that although Wilber may be strong in the fields of mind and culture (though even here debates are needed to assess the validity of his proposals), his coverage of the domains of life and matter was insufficient. In my opinion, this casts grave doubt on Integral Theory's claim to be a "Theory of Everything". I suggested other disciplines, such as the field of Big History, could compensate for this glaring omission. Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/visser79.html PUT AWAY YOUR CRAYONS, CHILDREN - A Response to Joe Perez - ANDY SMITH Frank's first criticism of Wilber is that his understanding of science is inadequate. There are actually many examples of this, which I, and others such as David Lane and Geoffrey Falk, have discussed in great detail in dozens of analyses of Wilber. I'm not at all sure that Joe is even aware of these articles. One of Ken's most outrageous views, which I discussed in the article “We All Wanna Change the World”, is evident in his apparent support for a man who claimed to be able to change the molecular processes in living cells and molecular structure in matter simply by directing his thought processes towards them. Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/smith54.html THE NONDUAL REALIZATION OF SAM HARRIS - The Future of an Illusion - BARCLAY POWERS Sam Harris' book, Waking Up: A Guide To Spirituality Without Religion, is definitely an important book because of his position as one of America's most outspoken atheist scientific rationalists. The fact that he's able to discuss spirituality, nonduality, meditation, hallucinogens, and sudden versus gradual enlightenment, within the context of the atheist rejection of religion, is a genuine remarkable personal achievement. This is definitely atheist spiritual rationalism that differs significantly from his fellow skeptics. Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/powers17.html To SUBSCRIBE to this Integral World Newsletter or change your email address, click here: http://www.integralworld.net/pommo/user/subscribe.php To UNSUBSCRIBE, update your account by logging in. For explanation, see: http://www.integralworld.net/nl_faq.html