INTEGRAL WORLD MAILING LIST http://www.integralworld.net Newsletter Nr. 737 Amsterdam, October 14th, 2018 THE JOY OF BEING CALLED ‘EXTREMELY CONVENTIONAL’ - Responding to a Wilberian Put-Down - FRANK VISSER If "thinking integrally" means claiming scientific support for one's own spiritual views, from Nobel Prize winners who did not share your views, then I prefer not to belong to that category at all. If it means avoiding any opportunity to discuss one's views with informed critics, then this is not much of an ideal to aspire to. If it means that these critics can be put down as "extremely conventional", thus contrasting them to one's own post-conventional (or post-postconventional, or post-post-postconventional, or, whatever) views, then the integral project is in grave danger of becoming an insulated ideology, which tries to survive by endlessly repeating its own unsubstantiated claims to fame. By presenting itself is "a view from 30.000 feet" it apparently doesn't feel the obligation to have the details right. Details that are not minor. If authority arguments are seen as more important than careful reasoning; if authoritarian response to questioning is the norm… Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/visser126.html