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Newsletter Nr. 783
Amsterdam, July 8th, 2019


EROS AND EVOLUTION - Discussing one of the Most Un-debated Topics in the Integral World - FRANK VISSER & LAYMAN PASCAL - MODERATOR: BRUCE ALDERMAN- FULL TRANSCRIPT

So yeah, Eros, is it a metaphor, is it a theory, is it a metatheory? It is unclear what Wilber has in mind, and the way he employs the term Eros, often in the context of scientific debates about what is empirically probable and isn't probable, muddles the waters even more. I have nothing against poetry if it's clear from the start that it is meant to be poetry. But if it's mixed with empirical questions then it is basically without meaning to me.

You mentioned the complexity and the diversity of reality and of course that is the challenge for all parties involved to explain that. The particular explanation of Wilber is positing an Eros in the cosmos and that is what I'm questioning. I'm never questioning the complexity or the sequence of going from simple atoms to complex human brains. That is not the issue. It was: do we make any progress in clarifying this process by introducing such an entity—whatever it might be. And my answer is no, because there are in almost all cases which Wilber uses as example so many more interesting scientific, reductionistic if you want, explanations at hand that it becomes for me a meaningless exercise to repeat again and again there's an Eros in the cosmos.


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INTEGRAL EVOLUTION BY ANALOGY - JOE CORBETT

Evolution can be thought of in terms of an analogy between bio-physical evolution and socio-cultural development. Such an analogy will help us visualize within a 4Q framework how evolution itself may occur from an integral point of view, that is, by considering the external neo-Darwinian factors of random chance mutations in the UR and environmental selection of functional fit in the LR, as well as the interior trans-Darwinian factors of quantum potentialities in the UL and Kosmic storehouse archetypal resonances in the LL.

From a socio-cultural level of analysis, we can take the example of the invention of the printing press in the 1450s. Here we have a technology in the UR (an extension of the hand) whose impact on the individual development of minds in the UL had wide-ranging influences on both cultural values in the LL and societal structures in the LR. 

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